Hi, I've just started learning Sindarin, and one of the most complicated things is of course that many sources contradict themselves, or propose different rule. I was wondering which sources are used for this site, and how we can check them. Because I've seen two different ways to put verbes in the present and don't know which one is best to use.
What's the other way you've seen to form the present tense? There are disagreements about the past tense, but I've never seen a different present tense.
Major sources: Parma Eldalamberon - linguistic journal, unfortunately the most useful one #17 is out of print (although there is a PDF kicking around if you ask nicely), other particularly useful ones are #19, #22 and some of the others. These contain Tolkien's notes. Vinyar Tengwar - linguistic journal containing other bits of Tolkien's notes The Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, The Silmarillion and the Unfinished Tales are the main books, plus odd words from things like A Reader's Companion The History of Middle-earth; I have the three volume edition but the salient parts are The Book of Lost Tales, The Lost Road, Morgoth's Ring, War of the Jewels
Lesser sources (single words, that sort of thing): Tolkien: Maker of Middle-earth, Catherine McIlwaine The Road Goes Ever On, Donald Swann
Other sources that helped shape ideas and laid the groundwork for mine and other people's work: Pedin Edhellen by Thorsten Renk A Gateway to Sindarin by David Salo
These latter sources are often outdated in many areas but there are still useful conclusions. It's like any scientific endeavour, older papers still have merit even if some of their science has been disproven.
There are undoubtedly a few more I can't think of right now but that should give you an idea.
Amy: Hello! I am confused about the verb nautha-. In lesson 17 the dialog at the start has “nauthog” for “you think”, then “semin” for “I think”. Is nautha- one of the irregular verbs? I can’t find anything else it in the lessons or dictionary. Thank you!
Jul 12, 2020 2:56:39 GMT
Xandarien: Suilad! There have been two verbs used for 'to think', I apologise for the confusion. There's Nautha- 'to conceive an idea, think' and Sam- 'to think. Sam- should have been removed everywhere as it was a reconstruction that we don't need. I'll change that.
Jul 13, 2020 8:47:43 GMT
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Jul 14, 2020 2:16:08 GMT
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Sept 11, 2020 15:15:50 GMT
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Sept 11, 2020 15:17:34 GMT
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Adanedhell: Where did you collect all the knowledge? I mean the books of Tolkien etc.
Oct 27, 2020 16:47:28 GMT
Xandarien: There are essays and notes published in two journals called Vinyar Tengwar and Parma Eldalamberon, also in bits of The History of Middle-earth, odd words here and there really!
Oct 28, 2020 20:40:53 GMT